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Srebrenica "men and boys"
Was it a genocide?
Did the Bosnian Serb Army have a right to engage the
column of "Srebrenica men and boys," as Western media
have labeled it? Were these helpless, disarmed people,
trying to run away to save their lives or was it a
military formation doing a hostile military manoeuvre?
Let us get as close to the source of information
as possible. Let the top Bosnian Muslim generals, themselves,
once again, tell the truth.
Clinton needs 5,000 Muslims
Bosnian Muslim leader tries to provide
Documents on this page all come from the testimonies
given by the Muslim generals Sefer Halilovic and
Enver Hadzihasanovic at the Hague. On one of
our previous pages the same generals claimed that
they had no intention to honor
the disarmament agreement. They even did their best
to arm Srebrenica war criminals.
Let us see what they said, out of their own free will,
about the attempted retreat of Srebrenica Muslim Army.
Srebrenica Muslims left to their destiny
Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings,
Case against Serbian General Krstic
pp 9452, 9454:
JUDGE RODRIGUES: [Interpretation] General, to move on to the
attack on Srebrenica, do you have an idea when the Bosniak
[i.e. Muslim] authorities, civilian or military, learnt of
the attack on the Srebrenica enclave by the [Bosnian] Serb
forces, and in particular, when were they informed of the
transfer of the population, the capture...? When did they
learn of this? And the BH
army [Muslim] forces, did they have military
materiel and manpower to prevent the attack or to launch
Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: In the [Muslim controlled]
Dani magazine published in 1998 as a special edition, Dani
magazine, under the title of "How They Sold Out Srebrenica and Retained
Power," this was an article written by Mr. Hecimovic, a journalist, he
quotes a series of testimonies from the meeting of the SDA
[Bosnian Muslim Party] Main Board in Zenica...
Hecimovic at that time was a journalist and he was a close
collaborator of the [Bosnian Muslim] prime minister, Mr. Haris
Silajdzic, prime minister of Bosnia-Herzegovina, therefore,
he was in a position to know at firsthand what was happening
I later learnt that the command of the 2nd Corps and the General
Staff knew when the operation on Srebrenica started, but from
a series of testimonies, the people who were in Srebrenica, both
from military and political structures, we can clearly see that
they [Srebrenica Muslims] asked for help, both of the command
of the 2nd Corps and the command of the General Staff and
[Muslim] President Izetbegovic, but that they did not receive
that assistance. To answer your
question whether they had the power and materiel to help, to
come to the help of Srebrenica, I think that they did...
JUDGE RODRIGUES: [Interpretation] Yes, General. Perhaps
we could now move on more specifically to the column, the issue
of the column. In general terms, what information do you dispose
of with respect to the column, the formation of the column,
the evolution of the column, and everything else with respect
to the column, how it was pierced?
General Sefer Halilovic: From what I learnt talking to
people who were in the enclave, that is to say, in Srebrenica,
but also from the discussions I had with members of the [Muslim]
General Staff, I learnt that, in fact, the General Staff and the
presidency did not have any information as to the direction
taken by the column from Srebrenica. They reported back once
but did not communicate after that, so that in practical terms,
the first information as to the direction of the column, whether
it was moving towards Zepa or Kladanj or Tuzla, reached them
only when the first parts of the column began to appear along
the Tuzla axis, which means that along
that route of horror from Srebrenica to Tuzla, they were
not assisted in any way [by the main Muslim forces]. No aid
Why was there no aid provided? The answer may come from
Bosnian Muslim fundamentalist leader Alija Izetbegovic:
Allah does not count victims
FOR ALL MUSLIMS THERE IS BUT ONE SOLUTION: TO CONTINUE TO
FIGHT, TO STRENGTHEN AND BROADEN IT, FROM DAY TO DAY,
FROM YEAR TO YEAR, NO
MATTER THE VICTIMS AND NO MATTER THE TIME
The above quote is from:
"The Islamic Declaration"
book by Alija Izetbegovic
First printed in Sarajevo in 1970,
reprinted 1990, page 53
Bill Clinton needs|
at least 5,000 Srebrenica victims
Dutch documentary reveals the trap
Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings, pp 9474, 9475:
Defense council of Serbian General Krstic, Mr. Petrusic,
addresses General Halilovic:
General, do you know Hakija Meholjic? Have you heard of him?
Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: I met him in 1999
or 2000 perhaps, after having read some of his statements
in the press.
General, he was chief of police in Srebrenica
in 1995, or rather, in the period of the safe area until
the end of the war. Is that so, for the record?
General Halilovic: As far as I know, yes.
Mr. Petrusic: [Interpretation] I should now like
to ask the technical booth to play a short video film
of some 10 minutes. It is a
video film made by Dutch television, after which
I will have a few questions for the General, General Halilovic.
"The International Community
needed the genocide!!!"
Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings, starting on page 9480:
From tape presented:
[Muslim official] Hakija Meholjic [INTERPRETER Voiceover]:
THE INTERPRETER: [Voiceover] "A
meeting with American president Clinton, Alija [Izetbegovic] was
telling us about the offer of Clinton. Chetniks [ment as derogatory
for Serbs] would take Srebrenica and kill 5.000 Muslims, and then
there will be a military intervention, and what did we think about that?
And we rejected that. We didn't think it was normal that 5.000
people would be slaughtered."
[Dutch narrator(?)]: That the American president
would have suggested that Serbs would enter Srebrenica and
to kill Muslims in order to justify an intervention
would be too absurd, but from the UN research, it now seems
that this is not too awkward. Some
surviving members of
the Srebrenica delegation have stated that President
Izetbegovic also told them that he had learned that
a NATO intervention in Bosnia-Herzegovina was possible
but could only occur if the Serbs which would break into
Srebrenica are killing at least 5.000 of its people.
We talked about an exchange and the exchange of Srebrenica for
UN report: The delegation opposed the idea and the subject was
not discussed further.
[Hakija Meholjic]: In negotiations we will demand that
the maps will be corrected in the Bosnian parliament,
that the Bosnian Republic will get Muslim territory along
the Drina. The delegation is -- imposed secrecy. The
exchange of territories is not -- it was not abolished.
We agreed to meet the next day. But after our meeting
with Izetbegovic, people started to be bribed. People
were taken everywhere. Men came that I didn't know and
they made propositions. I've seen those men, but never
They spoke individually with us or in groups, sitting
at a table. I was sitting at a table together with Mehovic,
and they asked us what we thought about Srebrenica for
[Sarajevo, Serb held suburb of] Vogosca, exchanging
for Srebrenica for Vogosca, and Zepa for Ilijas [also
suburb of Sarajevo]. In
case I would not accept the exchange, I could be liquidated,
so I returned with the delegation to Srebrenica.
General Halilovic was aware of the meeting between
Izetbegovic and the delegation. According to him,
the president spoke also with other representatives
of Srebrenica. Izetbegovic offered to exchange Srebrenica
for Zepa, for neighbourhoods in Sarajevo, Vogosca, Ilijas
and Ilidza. We rejected that. Only half a year after
Srebrenica was proclaimed a safe area, it is the Muslim
government that discusses the destiny of the Muslim
population in Srebrenica. Did
Sarajevo sacrifice Srebrenica in 1993?
Answer: I think so, yes.
Interview of the Dutch Defence Ministry for
The question is: Would the Dutch
government have sent DutchBat if they had known that
the Muslims were considering the secret proposal and
maybe have accepted that? Broskij, acting commander
of DutchBat, says that this would have been decisive.
This is Broskij, the acting commander:
Well, the situation would have
been different for the Dutch government in that case.
I'm certain of that... we would not have been sent
in that case.
Early 1995, after a year of relative quiet, tensions
increase in the enclave. February, a year and a half
after the issue of exchange of territory was discussed
-- they're talking about a discussion with Naser Oric.
The one general refuses to take Oric with him. Early
April 1995 Oric would have managed to speak to
Izetbegovic and to discuss his presumptions. In the
General Staff, according to this man, there was a
meeting between Oric and Izetbegovic.
I heard from Naser that those two were together in
one room during that night. Naser told me that himself.
Everything indicates that Oric's fears were confirmed.
Oric is back from Kakanj, but then he
[Naser Oric] leaves for good
from the enclave and he orders the deputy commander
to come with him. After that, he told me,
I don't know the exact number, but he
sent about 20 officers away, known fighters who
participated in heavy fighting. They were trusted by
the soldiers and by the people. Each of them could
easily gather a hundred people with them that were
willing and able to die, able to die. He sent them
away to [military] study, to follow an education.
Sources confirm that Oric left on his own initiative.
The soldiers spoke to Oric just before Oric left.
He said he would come back. He said that he would
come back and arrange something for our enclave.
The man who had been in the centre of attention for
four years left in silence. DutchBat and the UN left
-- knew that Oric has been in safety for three months
only after the fall of Srebrenica.
Is this his biggest secret? Answer: Probably. His
secret and Izetbegovic's secret.
Dutch deputy commander: He was a very strong leader.
The people, he really -- he was a very strong force
behind his brigades, at the moment such a commander,
at least, and case is complete. People panicked,
especially women, children, and elderly, so the weaker
groups. And the... army that was left started to panic.
We saw that there was no more
leadership, and we had obviously been abandoned...
Then something strange happened.
Muslim soldiers leave the enclave
and plunder the [Serbian] village of Visnjica
just behind the defence line. The order came from Sarajevo
to change the pressure on the front. In the meeting,
I resisted. This could not happen because this would
cause problems. The village was very unimportant.
Still the order was given, and the guys in Srebrenica
followed the order.
Why, for goodness' sake? Houses were burned. The attack
was led by one of Oric's former allies, former associates.
11th of July, 1995, Serbs take the enclave. The Muslims
separated. Women and children are bused to safety.
The men stay behind.
The remaining army, the remaining part of the army
flees through the woods to [Muslim held] Tuzla...
International Community needed the genocide..."
[End of the Dutch documentary.]
[Interpretation] Thank you, Mr. President.
Mr. Petrusic: General, sir, you will agree that the
man on this video clip speaking about the alleged
agreement of Alija Izetbegovic on the liquidation
of 5.000 Muslims was Hakija Meholjic; am I right
in saying that? For the record, you assert that
it was Hakija Meholjic?
General Halilovic: Yes, that's right. It was
Izetbegovic: Srebrenica people - not my people
Thursday, 5 April 2001
The Hague Proceedings, pp 9487, 9488:
And finally, General, I'm going to quote one more
sentence, page 134 of your book, and I quote:
"According to an interview with Holbrooke,
Izetbegovic in January 1995 was ready to hand over
Srebrenica to the Serbs in the context of a broader
solution of the peace question and in order to
retain Sarajevo intact. He said that they were not
his, and he did not care about that. Mark Dunner
[phoen] recorded Holbrooke's statement on that occasion."
When you say he did not care about that, that
they were not his people, do you mean "he" being
Alija Izetbegovic? Is that the "he" you're
referring to? ...
General Halilovic: Here it states precisely
that it refers to Mr. Izetbegovic, and there is
no need for us to deduce anything. It says so
Were Muslim men a military target?
We see from the study presented on one of our previous
pages that top Muslim generals Halilovic and Hadzihasanovic
easily admit that they had no
intention to honor the disarmament of Srebrenica agreement.
They even did their best to arm Srebrenica war criminals.
The two generals inform us that Srebrenica Muslims, already
in April 1993, are organized in well formed military unit
(the 28th Division), numbering 5.803 people. The "disarmament"
scam left them quite well armed. The generals were able to
admit that the unit had 1.947 automatic rifles, 27 submachine-guns,
15 machine-guns, 68 hand-held rocket launchers, all kinds of
mortars, anti-armour, anti-missile, anti-aircraft launchers,
This is not your L.A. street gang.
But this was in April 1993 and thanks to the demilitarization
agreement given to them by their Western allies the Muslim
generals did their best to arm Srebrenica criminals more.
The generals admit that they sent, in front of the besieging
Serbian noses, eight helicopters filled with arms and
So, these are the people who formed a column trying to
break trough 100km deep, well defended Serb-held territory.
We called their attempt a suicide
The entire 28th Division
on the march!
Friday, 6 April 2001
The same, page 9527, 9528:
Muslim General, Enver Hadzihasanovic: I know
that on the 11th of July ,
almost all members
of the army gathered in the village of Susnjari.
In addition to the military, as far as I know and
according to the information that I have, there
were about 7.000 civilians in that village. There
was a very small number of women there, not more
than ten, I think. So on the 11th of July, in the
evening, the division command, together with the
municipal authorities, on their own initiative
decided to move in a column and try and leave the
area of the protected zone in the direction of
the free territory around Tuzla. I think that that
decision was taken around 2200 hours on the 11th
According to the statement by the late [Muslim] Chief
of Staff with whom I had an opportunity to talk,
Mr. Becirovic, I think that was his name,
the column consisted
between 12.000 and 15.000 people and
almost the complete composition,
the complete division was there, that is, 5.500
to 6.000 troops...
Only half of the armed force
survives the suicide march!
Thursday, 5 April 2001
The same, page 9490:
JUDGE [FOUAD] RIAD: ...What was
the percentage of fighters or of military people
in the column, if you know about it?
Muslim General, Sefer Halilovic: I can't say exactly
what the percentage of military people was compared to the
civilians in the column, but after
the breakthrough from the encirclement -- from the enclave,
rather, several days later I saw a review of the 28th
Division in Tuzla, and
there were about 3.000 soldiers, 3.000 fighters amongst
them, and the information media claimed that they
came from the enclave to Tuzla together with the
JUDGE RIAD: And have you an idea how strongly
they were armed in the column?
General Sefer Halilovic: The soldiers who were
in the column together with the civilians were armed
with light infantry weapons. That was shown during the
review and ceremony [!!!] held in Tuzla seven or eight days
later, after they had broken through, after they had
JUDGE RIAD: And were they in a position to fight,
to fight back?
General Sefer Halilovic:
Their position was a
highly precarious one, and according to what
I learnt, once again from the information media, they
had to walk for a very long time and were very tired.
They were exhausted, and
a large number did
not reach Tuzla at all, so that they were not in a
position to defend themselves, to fight.
Of course, they were in "precarious position" and
they could not defend themselves very efficiently.
That was the whole point of the above mentioned Bill
Clinton's plan of obtaining 5,000 Islam martyrs.
This is how the column looked when they arrived.
The following photograph was presented in The
New York Times on Friday, July 21, 1995, Page A8.
The subtitle reads: "Bosnian Government soldiers from
the enclave of Srebrenica, which fell to the Serbs
last week, stopped for a rest Wednesday near the
Government-held town of Kalesija. The soldiers had
trekked for days through Serb-held territory,
carrying their wounded with them".
Srebrenica 28th Division arrives -
with Western machine-guns on their sholders
Did you notice the German made, Heckler & Koch
G3A3 semi-automatic rifles these Islamic war criminals
and terrorists have?
The rifle fires the 7.62 x 51 mm NATO cartridge.
This kind of weaponry was never (ever) seen before
in ex-Communist Yugoslavia. How did this Srebrenica
soldier obtain it? Srebrenica was completely encircled
by the Serbs from the very first days of the war.
What was the content of American "humanitarian"
As said before, American Pentagon
supplied arms, even Arab mujahedin fighters to
the Muslims involve civilians
in suicide military act
Friday, 6 April 2001
The same, page 9528:
Muslim General, Enver Hadzihasanovic: It
was decided that the column should go along the
axis Konjevic Polje-Bratunac moving along the
ridges west of that axis, and that the asphalt
road be crossed over in the area between Konjevic
Polje and Nova Kasaba and that they should continue
towards Tuzla after crossing the tarmac on that spot.
The length of the column,
according to the information that I have, was
between 12 and 15 kilometres, and the time
span was about two and a half hours from the
head and the tail of the column.
They started on the 11th of July around midnight.
As far as I could note, it was structured as follows:
The head of the column
consisted of elements of the 284th Brigade who were
followed by the 280th Brigade and I know that
the Chief of Staff told me that he was amongst the
members of that unit. Then followed civilians together
with the military, and
the last element
of the column was the independent battalion which
was also part of the 28th Division.
ZIG - ZAG...
through mountains and hell!
Friday, 6 April 2001
The same, page 9528 - 9531:
Muslim General, Enver Hadzihasanovic:
Before they reached the asphalt road at Konjevic
Polje towards Vlasenica, an artillery attack was
launched against the second half of the column.
Fire was opened from various kinds of artillery
weapons on the tail of the column, and the head
of the column realised that there was nobody on
the tarmac road. They had started crossing the road
on that spot, not knowing that the second half of
the column was, in the meantime, exposed to a fierce
attack, artillery attack. That was on the 12th of
July. I think that about 80 or 100 people managed
to cross the tarmac road, that is one-third of the
After that, some APCs and a tank, I believe,
arrived and the Serb forces pierced the column
on that spot. So the first third of the column
managed to cross the asphalt road, and they were
waiting to see what would happen with the rest
of the column. However, throughout that day, the
second half of the column was exposed to heavy
shooting and shelling, and during the night, they
probably thought that other members of the column
would also cross the road, but nobody did so they
decided to move on. I know that because the Chief
of Staff who told me about this was with that
portion of the column.
They continued towards the Udrc mount where they
assembled, and at that point in time they sent
a group of people back to the asphalt road to
wait and see whether anybody else would cross over,
but they had to return because no one was crossing
the road any more. So on the 13th of July, they
continued on their way across the Udrc mount in
the direction of Kalesija that is towards the
Kalesija-Zvornik asphalt road.
On that part of the road,
they were ambushed on several occasions. There
were fatalities and casualties there,
and on the 14th of July or the 15th, they reached
the area of the village of Medzedza, that
is the area of Crni Vrh, which is a hill
On the 15th of July, they tried to leave the area
of Crni Vrh [Black Peak] and the wider area is
called Parlog. They tried to move closer to the
[Muslim held] front lines but they were ambushed
again [by the Bosnian Serbs] so they had to go back
and they spent the night there. In the afternoon
hours of the 15th of July, they selected a large
group of people who then fought with the Serbs
at one point in time, but they were unable to do
anything. So on the 15th of July in the evening
hours, they went back to the same spot to spend the
On the 16th of July, in a similar way with a group
of people, they attempted once again a breakthrough
and at that point in time, the communication was
established with the [Muslim] front line through
a walkie-talkie so the Corps Command, at that time,
was already familiar with the spot where they could
be expected to come out. In the early morning hours of
the 16th of July, the front line was finally pierced
by the elements of the 24th Division and the 212th
As for the other side, they were moving from the
rear of the front and they managed to pierce the
line along the distance of one and a half kilometres,
and the civilians and the military which was with
that group started entering the free area at that
spot. However, as regards the asphalt road between
Konjevic Polje and Vlasenica, in that area, there
were very few people left, only an individual here
and there who managed to go through.
Later on, people who survived and who managed to
come out told us that it was
like a manhunt in that area near the asphalt
road coming from Srebrenica going towards Kravica,
Konjevic Polje, and then further on from Konjevic
Polje towards Vlasenica near Kasaba. So that region
was the theatre of a fierce manhunt, and I know that
they were collecting people at three locations. One
of them was the stadium near Nova Kasaba. The
second one was a farm, agricultural farm in the
village of Kravica. The third location was an
elementary school or part of a factory in Kravica.
If you were a Serb sitting in your village burned
down to the ground by Srebrenica Muslims, when you hear that
they are coming your way, full force, thousands of them,
well armed, would you consider them a military target?
They murdered your old mother who barely survived them
the first time 50 years ago when they were on Hitler's
side and in Nazi SS uniforms. They mutilated and murdered
some of your neighbors. More than 2,000 Serbs by this time
were slaughtered by these criminals.
They roasted some
Serbs, as if they were animals, alive, on the spit,
slit throats of others, chopped off heads...
Do you wait for them to appear in front of
your house or do you shell them with all you got?
Do you trap them in the woods or do you wait to
see whether they would, in passing by, murder your wife
As they come to you, by thousands, the best armed
ones first, do you check to see who is armed and who
is not and shoot only on those who are? Before you shoot,
as they shoot at you, do you ask whether anyone in the
approaching crowd is younger than 21?
It is the well deserved justice what these criminals
are afraid of. That is why they did not want to surrender,
not even under supervision of U.N., but it is truly
criminal if they brought civilians, maybe even some
young boys, on this path of death. Why should the
Serbs be guilty if some of these, maybe innocent people,
The Western estimate was that too few Srebrenica
Muslims died in this hostile, suicidal military act.
Again, Bill Clinton needed at least 5,000 Srebrenica
Muslims dead so he can pretend to be a humanitarian
and unleash the full power of NATO/Nazi force on the
Bosnian Christian Serbs' heads.
No problem. The West, with their Islam fundamentalist
allies will find many creative ways to lie about how many
people died on the zig-zag, back and forth, Muslim
attempt to break through Serbian controlled forests
Western media will repeat their lies, as if they were
true. The best Western experts were sent to dig, haven and
earth in areas broad around Srebrenica, and try to find
material evidence, any evidence, to the claim that the
Serbs performed mass execution of Srebrenica Muslims. Years
of digging could bring no result. No problem. The Western
culture slipped so far back into dark ages that not one
person would be burned on a stake after a false accusation
of being a witch. A whole nation, will be accused of no
less than genocide and then this false accusation not
supported by ANY evidence would be used as an excuse for
all-out punishment in form of mass-bombing (using
expulsion of at least million
Serbs (from Krajina and Western Bosnia) from
everything they ever owned...
One of the first tricks implemented was to hide some
Muslim survivors of the above events and then declare them
The original page for the above quotes, for
General Halilovic's statements, can be found at
"UN" web site at this address.
General Hadzihasanovic's statements, are at
[ Hiding Muslim survivors ]
[ Srebrenica "massacre" ]